You Have to Walk the Dog
John:
You've been led astray.
John:
I gave you a good YouTube starting point and you quickly found that.
John:
How many clicks did it take you to get to that?
Casey:
Actually, this is Facebook.
John:
Oh, you started off at the bottom.
John:
Do we have follow-up this week?
John:
I put in the link here and I had to pronounce this person's name and I realized I haven't followed the link.
Casey:
Would you like a moment?
Casey:
Would you like me to stall for you for a moment?
John:
Yeah, hang on a second.
Marco:
So, John, you didn't do your homework?
John:
No, I did.
John:
It's open in a tab right there.
John:
I listened to it, and it didn't help.
Casey:
Oh, so it was lost.
Casey:
It was lost amongst your tabs, was it?
John:
Lost.
John:
It was right next to the ATP tab.
John:
Mm-hmm.
John:
He knew exactly where it was the whole time.
John:
Yep, totally.
John:
That's right.
John:
I just didn't actually click on it.
John:
The keyboard, if you can't just open the tab, you have to actually go to the thing and play it.
John:
Anyway, this feedback is from Urka, according to Google Translate, which I'm assured is accurate in this case.
John:
um regarding the eyesight replacement for the iphone 6 plus like the problems that are having you can get it replaced under warranty or whatever uh this question is there a reason apple can't just send the notification to the affected devices why do we have to go to like a web form and enter your serial number to find out if your device is the one that has the type of problem
John:
And I thought that was an interesting question because there are two aspects of it.
John:
One is the technical.
John:
Could Apple even do that?
John:
And second is the privacy-related one.
John:
Would Apple actually want to do that?
John:
Technically speaking...
John:
I think Apple could do that.
John:
Surely there is software running on iPhones that has access to the serial number information like Apple software, even if third-party apps don't.
John:
Apple makes the OS so they can get that information.
John:
But they would have to build that into the OS where periodically it...
John:
phones home and says are there any uh relevant recalls or updates for this thing if so blah blah and the privacy aspect one is does apple know that phone serial number xyz belongs to an individual person i'm not i suppose they do because you've got the uh what do you call it find my iphone type thing but
John:
I'm not sure what Apple does with that information.
John:
So my answer to this feedback is they probably could.
John:
And I would imagine the reason they don't is that they don't have the code for that built in.
John:
And it's probably like a low priority since these recalls don't happen that often.
John:
And building it in is just like that whole mechanism seems like it has the potential to be difficult to implement in a way that doesn't expose more information about a person to,
John:
To Apple, because Apple generally doesn't want to know, wants to know as little about you as possible, and potentially to other things they're going to exploit, whatever hole this pokes in a thing that periodically pulls some location and uploads information about your phone to it.
John:
So I don't know, you guys have thoughts on that?
Marco:
Well, you know, I think they almost certainly could do this kind of thing if they wanted to.
Marco:
And there is one thing to consider also that the quote recall or whatever it is, the service extension, whatever technically it is,
Marco:
Um, they say very, they say multiple times on that page that it only applies to iPhone six pluses with the serial number range that are in working order.
Marco:
And so that probably gives them the ability to say, well, this phone that you're handing us is all beat up and we, you know, we're not going to repair this, this horribly beat up phone with the broken screen and the dent all over it, uh, for this camera thing.
Marco:
Cause you know, you've obviously abused this phone or it isn't in good working order.
Marco:
So it gives them like, it gives them an out.
Marco:
Um,
Marco:
And there's no way for them to know on the server side, like, you know, what kind of condition your phone is in physically, really.
Marco:
And so they probably don't want to send this to people whose devices are ineligible.
John:
Secondly, I think they're doing it to save money.
Marco:
Well, at least to save a lot of requests from people who won't be satisfied.
Marco:
But also, they might be doing it to save money.
Marco:
They might actually say, you know, this is really only affecting some of these phones.
Marco:
And it says, it makes it kind of clear in the language on the page that in one place where it states the conditions, I believe the first time it states the conditions, it says, phones that are in good working order and are exhibiting this problem.
Marco:
And then the second time it mentions it, it doesn't mention whether the phone has to be exhibiting the problem to have the repair done.
Marco:
But it looks like they're trying not to replace or not to service phones that don't necessarily need, quote, need it.
Marco:
And that could be something like, well, we're only going to service the ones whose cameras are actually showing this problem according to a genius who looks at it.
Marco:
Or also it could mean we're only going to service this problem for people who notice the problem and who care about the problem.
Marco:
So it probably is, to some degree, trying to minimize the number of people who even know about this problem and who go in to get things fixed and who go in and load the Apple stores and the repair centers with even more people and money.
Casey:
Yeah, I was just about to say that it seems like it would be a tough thing to figure out.
Casey:
Let's assume they want to notify everyone.
Casey:
How do you do that exactly?
Casey:
By that, I mean, do you just send one massive notification to everyone that has an affected device?
Casey:
That's probably unwise because the Apple store is going to have a pretty crummy day the next few days.
Casey:
Do you do it in batches?
Casey:
Well, then the internet eventually finds out that they're doing this in batches, and then the internet is enraged because this iPhone issue you didn't even know you had isn't getting fixed at the schedule you would like it to be fixed.
Casey:
And so how does that even work?
Casey:
It just seems like a nightmare.
Casey:
There's no good reason for Apple to do this.
Casey:
I do agree with Irka, but...
Casey:
I just I don't think that there's anything in it for Apple.
Casey:
And all it does is make things kind of more challenging for them.
John:
Yeah, this doesn't seem like an urgent issue.
John:
Like, as the chat room pointed out, they don't need to have the phones polling or anything.
John:
They could just do a push notification.
John:
And, you know, the serial number, like when you do find my iPhone and I'll install your devices, they know your devices.
John:
They have this information available to them.
John:
And the OS wouldn't need to poll.
John:
They would just need to, you know, send out a push notification.
John:
But it's not like batteries may explode.
John:
You need to know right now, now, now.
John:
it's more like the kind of thing that they would probably email you.
John:
And as long as you use an Apple ID, they have at least one email, you know, with your phone, set it up with an Apple ID.
John:
They have one email address.
John:
And it's the type of thing they could send out the emails.
John:
And I don't think it matters if you send all the emails at once or in batches because people aren't immediately going to run out.
John:
Again, it's not urgent.
John:
People immediately aren't going to run out to the store, read their email whenever they read it.
John:
Then they look at like, oh, half the people forget that they read it.
John:
Other people maybe put a reminder in their calendar and,
John:
And I think the there won't be a big rush on Apple stores, no matter how you notify about it.
John:
And it just doesn't seem that urgent, like for this particular thing.
John:
And the money saving aspect definitely has something to it.
John:
But, yeah, a lot of those a lot of these type of things, things that don't happen very often that aren't an essential expected part of the product experience.
John:
tend to be done in not just an Apple, but in every company tend to be done in sort of ways that seem inefficient or not high tech, because it's not, you know, the stuff that happens all the time, you know, software updates, for example, like expected parts of the life cycle of a product are
John:
are iterated on and improved and made more streamlined and made efficient and so on and so forth and these things that happen rarely or are supposed to happen rarely it's like well we'll just slap something together even something like not that i'm excusing this but you can think about the whole pushing the u2 album onto everyone's things that's not a thing that happens all the time like that was as far as i know that's the only time they ever did that it's not as if there's an established system for doing this in a way that
John:
has been proven to be efficient and non-annoying.
John:
They just like probably went to them and just said, well, can we, you know, because they probably couldn't give everyone promo codes because their promo code system probably couldn't handle that because there's just too many people and they don't want to, you know, so they probably went to the people and say, what's the best way we can give everyone this for free?
John:
Can we make it free for a day on the store?
John:
Well, then people might not redeem it.
John:
And, you know, like part of it was they really wanted this music to actually be on people's things without them having to do anything.
John:
Like, in other words, you had to opt out instead of opt in.
John:
uh but the way that they did it was just so clumsy and ham-fisted and at least part of that has to be part of it is just wrong-headed thinking the other part is that it's not something they do every day so you just got to say with the the mechanisms and tools and services we have at our disposal what can we do to make this happen um considering they do have push notifications they that was that was one of the things it seems like they could have done but then someone in the meeting will raise their hand and say
John:
yeah but is this really so important and then like the bean counter guy like marco says says won't that make more people come in try to get this service whether they need it or not uh so going to web form and entering your serial number starts looks pretty good in that regard can we make a web form can we do that i think so get that guy who knows without web objects in here
Marco:
Well, and also, you know, so this isn't a problem that is so urgent that it will cause, like, data loss or a physical hazard.
Marco:
As you said, you know, the battery isn't exploding.
Marco:
You know, like somebody in the chat was saying how the iMac 3TB drive recall, because...
Marco:
I think it was Seagate.
Marco:
Whoever made those three terabyte drives, they basically all failed everywhere.
Marco:
It wasn't just an IMAX.
Marco:
That whole drive generation was terrible.
Marco:
So they emailed people for that.
Marco:
But that makes sense.
Marco:
This is your data that you could be losing if this drive dies.
Marco:
In this case, your photos might be blurry on your 6 Plus if it was made in this range.
Marco:
By the way, mine was.
Marco:
My test 6 Plus, the serial number qualifies, but that's not going to qualify if they actually checked to have it pass.
Marco:
So I figure I'll worry about it later.
Marco:
But...
Marco:
Another thing is some people might say, well, how do you send a push notification and will they worry about annoying people?
Marco:
And the answer there is they don't worry about that at all because they already spam us with push notifications for stupid things.
John:
Three words for that one.
John:
Flash flood warning.
John:
Have you ever been in an office?
John:
Well, I don't know if you have them down where you are.
John:
If you're in the office and there's a flash flood morning, it sounds like the world is coming to an end as everyone's iPhones go off with this terrible klaxon sound.
John:
So I feel like they have, I mean, that's not them and you can opt out of that.
John:
You can turn that stuff off, you know.
Marco:
Well, and a few people in the chat are saying that's a legal requirement they had to do that.
Marco:
Anyway, that's separate, though.
Marco:
What I'm talking about is those BS push notifications from the Tips app and from the App Store and from the News app in iOS 9.
Marco:
You know, I've complained for a long time now that there has always been a rule.
Marco:
Ever since push notifications were launched, there was always a rule in the App Store review rules that said that you could not use push notifications for marketing or promotion of any kind.
Marco:
and not only has that rule never been enforced ever like there's been spam push notifications or push notifications that are for marketing or promotion only those have existed since the beginning of time and very popular apps have always used them like it isn't like it's only a few bad actors who do it like it's common practice everybody does it now
Marco:
and Apple has never seemed to care.
Marco:
Even though they have this rule, they've never seemed to even bother trying to enforce it.
Marco:
And now, Apple has started breaking that rule themselves.
Marco:
And that, like, they don't seem to care, or, you know, obviously, you know, Apple is not one person, so certain teams obviously don't seem to care, but...
Marco:
To me, that's extremely inappropriate.
Marco:
It just seems like this is one of those things that I care a lot more about than everybody else in the world.
Marco:
And so maybe I'm just nuts.
Marco:
But to me, a spam notification is never okay.
Marco:
And it's especially not okay from the platform vendor for a notification that I was opted into by default.
Marco:
That is not cool at all.
Casey:
No, I couldn't agree more.
Casey:
And the Tips app, I think I'd had it on my phone because it got pushed onto my phone during a software update or whatever.
Casey:
I think I saw one of the Tips come through on Notification Center.
Casey:
And the very next thing I did was grab my phone and turn off all notifications from Tips and bury it in the most deep folder in the middle of nowhere on my home screens.
Casey:
Because
Casey:
I don't want anything to do with it.
Casey:
I don't want it.
Casey:
I don't want to be opted into it.
Casey:
I wish it was opt-in by me rather than opt-in by them.
Casey:
Just no, go away.
Casey:
Don't do it.
Casey:
And again, like you said, Marco, it doesn't encourage an app developer to be a good citizen of the platform if the platform vendor is doing the same BS crap that I would want to do as a developer, hypothetically.
Casey:
It's just gross.
Marco:
This is kind of a larger theme that I keep seeing cracks in the foundation here.
Marco:
And I'm really fearing for this.
Marco:
You know, John mentioned the U2 album Songs of Innocence?
Marco:
Sounds of Innocence?
Marco:
Whatever it was.
Marco:
Spam of Innocence.
Marco:
And there's been things like that.
Marco:
Now these, you know, certain apps showing us notifications from Apple.
Marco:
And it kind of seems like...
Marco:
Apple is a big company.
Marco:
They are the man.
Marco:
Talking about rebelling against IBM, rebelling against the big company, rebelling against the man, Apple is the man now.
Marco:
And Apple is big corporate America now.
Marco:
Most of the time, we're able to ignore that.
Marco:
Most of the time, that is not a problem in the way that big, self-interested only and sometimes tasteless companies, the way they usually act, the way they usually annoy people like us.
Marco:
usually Apple does not display those qualities.
Marco:
But there have been a few instances recently where it seems like they're slipping.
Marco:
It seems like... And I don't know if this is like a Steve versus Tim thing.
Marco:
Probably not.
Marco:
But...
Marco:
It seems like Apple is starting to behave more like the giant corporation that they have been for quite some time.
Marco:
And it's starting to negatively affect some of the things they do in ways that annoy people like us who in the past have, you know, Apple's never been perfect, but...
Marco:
It sure seems like they're making little bad judgment calls more frequently now than they used to in ways like spamming us and promoting their own stuff and promoting Apple Music so heavily and iTunes and the music app that they've just ruined the entire music app and they ruined iTunes to a great degree.
Marco:
Stuff like that.
Marco:
They're making bad calls and they're doing things that are only self-interested rather than being self-interested that also benefit us.
John:
They ruin iTunes every few years, though.
John:
I don't think this ruining of iTunes is much different than all the other times they ruin iTunes.
John:
We've talked about iTunes in past shows.
John:
I think of all those things, the only one I can kind of defend is the tips app, because if there's going to be a tips app, it kind of has to be opt out.
John:
No one is going to.
John:
The whole point is you need the people who need these tips the most have no idea how to opt into it.
John:
So.
John:
uh which which os added the thing where you can turn off notifications from the notification is that ios 9 you can do that yeah i thought that was in one i'm keeping up with ios stuff but yeah i thought that was in one of the things that like from the notification you could say i don't want to see these notifications anymore because that's part of the hassle is like oh that's interesting you get the notification maybe i'm just misremembering chat room will correct me in a second if i'm wrong but uh if not uh apple should do this you get the notification and even when you know how to do it
John:
Like, oh, I got to go back to settings and then notifications and then scroll until I find the thing because there's no search.
John:
Maybe there is a search on that page.
John:
That's another idea.
John:
Did they add a search to settings on iOS?
John:
Yes.
John:
Yes, they did.
John:
It almost works.
John:
All right.
John:
People in the chat room say I'm thinking of Android.
John:
But anyway.
John:
Uh, yeah, that's a feature that's, that's, uh, that would be handy, but for tips that has to be opt out because the whole point of the tips is the people who need the most need to be able, and it can be annoying.
John:
Even those tips can be annoying.
John:
It's one of the tips.
John:
One of the first tips should, or maybe the second tip should be, uh, don't want to see any more of these tips.
John:
Here's how you turn them off.
John:
Uh, now someone on the chat room is saying that I'm correct that you can't turn them off from the notification.
John:
Anyway, I haven't installed iOS nine yet in case you haven't noticed.
John:
Um, but yeah, all the other stuff, uh,
John:
I don't know.
John:
It's hard for me to discern trends here.
John:
The only trend I can maybe pick out is that when Jobs was still around, they seemed much more limited in the things they were willing to try.
John:
They didn't try a lot of stuff.
John:
That's true.
John:
They were very limited, and you could kind of, I don't know if this is actually true, but you can kind of get a feel for things that you would imagine Steve Jobs would find distasteful didn't get out the door.
John:
Is that because he was micromanaging everything, or is that because everyone around him thought to themselves, if I saw this to Steve, he'll tell me it's crappy and we shouldn't put it out or whatever, whereas...
John:
Tim Cook's Apple is trying much more things.
John:
And overall, I think that's a benefit because we just get so many things that we want over so long that, you know, I mean, just look at iOS 8 and all the other stuff.
John:
But on the other side, you have like that.
John:
We never talked about that promotional site about what's so amazing about the iPhone and how app reviewers have great ideas and stuff like that.
John:
That would never have come out of – if that had passed under the nose of Steve Jobs, he would – that's not the kind of BS that he – he has a different brand of BS that he would not like to put out.
John:
And that is not the correct brand of BS.
John:
So I'm mostly – I think it's still a net positive I'm willing to deal with the bumps –
John:
in the road here but you know a lot of these things just reveal like i said for the ability to turn off the notification uh from the notification that's just a feature they should have um and you could say the problem is they keep sending too many notifications or the tips app annoys me or even stuff like i can't delete these apps off the phone i should be able to hide them or whatever those are exactly the type of things that tim cook's apple seems more receptive to hearing the cries about and they'll get to them eventually obviously
John:
the ability to actually hide the like the stocks app or whatever.
John:
It's probably really low on the list of thing of longstanding complaints about iOS in terms of impact.
John:
And it's like, well, just put them in a folder.
John:
That's what everyone else does.
John:
But I think they will eventually get to it.
John:
Unlike the pre Tim Cook Apple, where you're like, you know what?
John:
They're never going to let me hide the stocks app.
John:
Just put it in a folder.
John:
No big deal.
Marco:
Yeah I don't know it seems like you know what you said is correct that it does seem like you know we've we have now a different brand of BS you know and Steve's BS whether it was better aligned with us or whether we were just used to it or whether we just liked Steve as a character and kind of rolled it in who knows.
John:
Well, it was a personification.
John:
We're pretending it's Steve's BS.
John:
All it was was Apple's BS when Steve was the CEO.
John:
And so everything was mapped onto him.
John:
It's like, well, I don't know what actually went on inside the company, so I'll pretend this was Steve Jobs' idea.
John:
That was just the external simplification of the black box that was Apple.
John:
And same thing we're doing with Tim Cook's Apple or whatever.
John:
We have no real way of knowing what's going on internally.
John:
All we're doing is trying to...
John:
You just said, you know, Apple's not one person, but we're, you know, we're modeling it.
John:
Pretend it's a person.
John:
What is the personality of that person?
John:
What kind of person is this Apple, you know?
Marco:
Well, and, you know, so many big corporations behave like the out-of-touch men in their 50s who run them.
Marco:
And it shows.
Marco:
Yeah.
Marco:
Apple has been run by men in their 50s for a while now, but it really didn't behave that way.
Marco:
It didn't seem that way.
Marco:
They didn't seem as out of touch as that kind of group usually does to people like us.
Marco:
But for some reason now, I'm not feeling that confident in that anymore.
Marco:
It does seem like that has changed without Steve, or at least in the same time that Steve unfortunately passed away and the leadership changed and everything.
Marco:
It now seems more like what it is, which is a group of old guys trying to figure out what's cool and trying to yell at us now to tell us what's cool.
John:
Just hang in there, Marco.
John:
Soon you'll be an old guy in his 50s, and then everything will all match up again, and you'll be happy.
Marco:
Right.
Marco:
Well, I mean, I'm already not cool, and I'm only 34?
Marco:
33?
Marco:
33.
Marco:
I'm only... I never know.
Marco:
I gotta figure it out every time.
Marco:
I'm already not cool.
Marco:
I know that.
Marco:
But I would not be running something where I have to decide important things that other people should think are cool.
John:
It's not cool.
John:
It's just about taste.
John:
That's what it always comes down to, is like, what...
John:
What seems a tasteful, appropriate thing to do?
John:
What's too flashy?
John:
What's too flamboyant?
John:
What's too obviously BS?
John:
Like, make your BS at least be clever.
John:
What is actually inspiring versus what is cloying?
John:
Like, it's difficult to do.
John:
It's difficult to do as an individual, let alone trying to herd a giant multi-billion dollar organization to present a face to the world that most people who look on it decide that it is tasteful and the things they do are tasteful.
John:
Like, that's a tall order, so...
Marco:
It is, but the things that we've seen from Apple in recent time that have seemed distasteful to us, things like the spam of innocence, things like the weird presentations they keep giving, and the weird Eddy Cue segment, and the Apple Music segment, and everything.
Marco:
all this stuff you know it's this is this seems like they're they're letting a lot of things out that you know steve's brand of bs and the thing and the flaws steve will it out would be things like oh yeah the ipod hi-fi that's totally going to be an awesome deal and people are going to buy it you know like that that was like steve's kind of bs like other than the game was figuring out does he really
John:
like the ipod hi-fi probably he does because he if he didn't like it why would he even be introducing it he didn't like the motorola rocker and we could tell right kind of seemed like he really liked the ipod hi-fi and i guess it was okay but the rest of the world did not like the ipod hi-fi except for jason snell who loves it but everyone else was
Marco:
But like, yeah, like sometimes people like sometimes Steve thought something would at least seem to think something would be a great success and that people would have no problem with its price or limitations.
Marco:
And then the market said very clearly otherwise.
Marco:
That was Steve's.
Marco:
I think that that was Steve's biggest or most common flaw in judgment.
Marco:
Whereas now, current Apple, we have other flaws in judgment that are very different and to me a little more worrisome.
Marco:
And maybe it's no big deal.
Marco:
Maybe I'm overthinking it.
Marco:
That's very possible.
John:
But don't you think it's offset by the other changes in judgment of like, is it a good idea for apps to have extensions or to have third-party keyboards, setting aside the really buggy implementation?
John:
The new Apple says yes.
John:
The old Apple says no.
John:
I like the new Apple decision better.
John:
I think that outweighs all of this stuff.
Marco:
I think you're right, and that's why, like, overall, you know, I think Apple is in a better position now than they were, say, five years ago.
Marco:
You know, overall, things are better.
Marco:
Not, you know, not everything is better, but overall, I think you're right that things are better.
Marco:
It's still, it seems like...
Marco:
We all thought that after Steve, we were all telling ourselves back then, Apple will be okay.
Marco:
Maybe it won't change very much.
Marco:
But I think what we're seeing is how it has changed.
Marco:
And it isn't all for the better.
Marco:
And there are a lot of things that are better.
Marco:
But obviously, you can't have such an incredibly strong personality who had tons of power.
Marco:
You can't have that kind of person at the top of the company
Marco:
Who then leaves and nothing changes.
Marco:
It was never going to be nothing will change.
Marco:
And it was never realistic to think that the things that we loved about Apple would all survive this transition.
Marco:
Some of them haven't.
Marco:
And I think that's a little sad.
Casey:
Yeah.
Casey:
We really need to talk about something that's awesome.
Casey:
But very, very quickly, I just wanted to apologize for all the people who've been writing me saying, oh, my God, now I see a crescent on my iPhone.
Casey:
What have you done?
Casey:
Sorry, guys, but welcome to the club.
Casey:
Anyway, why don't you tell us about something that's cool, Marco?
Marco:
Our first sponsor this week is Harry's.
Marco:
Go to harrys.com and use promo code ATP to save $5 off your first purchase.
Marco:
Harry's offers high quality razors and blades for a fraction of the price of the big razor brands.
Marco:
They make their own blades from their own factory, which they bought.
Marco:
It's an old blade factory in Germany.
Marco:
They liked it so much they bought it.
Marco:
These are high quality, high performing German blades crafted by shaving experts, giving you a better shave that respects your face and your wallet.
Marco:
We'll be right back.
Marco:
An 8-pack is just $15.
Marco:
A 16-pack is just $25.
Marco:
You try to buy 16 Gillette Fusion blades, which I think are probably the most comparable blades, it's $56.
Marco:
Harry's, $25.
Marco:
It's incredible how much cheaper these things are.
Marco:
It's, again, less than half the price in almost every case.
Marco:
I've been a huge shaving nerd before.
Marco:
I've tried everything from DE Safety Blades, from the Feather and all the other fancy brands, all the way up to the Fusion ProGlide and everything else from the Gillette line.
Marco:
And I can tell you, Harry's is by far the best value in the business.
Marco:
No question.
Marco:
And I would say the quality is very, very similar in almost every possible way to Gillette Fusion Blades.
Marco:
And the Harry's handles look way better.
Marco:
Just everything about Harry's is so much classier.
Marco:
It's a better experience buying it.
Marco:
They have great support if you ever need it for any order help or anything.
Marco:
it is impossible to overstate the difference in quality and experience and design between Harry's and the other big brands.
Marco:
So check it out.
Marco:
Go to harrys.com.
Marco:
Use promo code ATP to save $5 off your first purchase.
Marco:
Get a starter set today with a handle, three blades, and shaving cream for just $15, including free shipping right to your door.
Marco:
harrys.com, promo code ATP.
Marco:
Thanks a lot.
Casey:
All right.
Casey:
I wanted to quickly talk about something I've been thinking about on and off all day today.
Casey:
And we've been talking a lot about forced touch and kind of tangentially the haptic engine and how it would be used on the iPhone.
Casey:
And something that had occurred to me, and I don't recall us talking about this, what if it was opt-in, kind of like iPad multitasking gestures, you know, the five-finger pinch and the four-finger swipes?
Casey:
What if it was opt-in?
Casey:
And so all the confusion that we were worried about from normal users that had never experienced Force Touch before and don't really know what it's all about, what if it was optional?
Casey:
Would that be a reasonable solution to the problem?
Casey:
I'm still not sure what it would do necessarily, but maybe it's an optional long press.
Casey:
But like you were saying before, Marco, on a prior episode, but